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Game Guide : Opening more data to Toolmakers!

Postby Falkarma » Fri 09 Sep 2016, 02:30

Lastest version here:

1.29: https://www.dropbox.com/s/eco15vp7z55yp ... 9.zip?dl=0


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Hi all,

But wait, there is much better!

We really like player-made tools for the game, these tools help new players, old players and we must say theses will often make the difference between a player dropping the game or not when they are stuck. So we want to make sure you got all you need to create them.

And what could be better than a direct access to a game database!?

Yes, we are opening a portion of our game database to the toolmakers. There is much more information in there than in the old xml file but I must warn you that extracting the data will be far complicated, and we won't have much time to help you with it.

For now, the Quest, Resident, Store, Loot, Achievement is kept hidden, we are not ready to open this part and we still have lots of debate about if it's something we should do. But everything about crafting, harvesting, home and the map should be there, allowing tons of hours of guide coding!

I would like to beta the opening of the data with a few interested toolmaker. Please send me an email at francois.desrosiers@virtys.com with a description of your tool and I will give you the way to connect to this database. You will need Visual Studio Community Edition or SQL Managment Studio (both free from Microsoft).

Falk out

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Salut tous!

Le guide est maintenant mis à jour.

Vous pouvez avoir accès au fichier de données ici:

Attendez! Il y a encore plus!

Nous aimons vraiment les outils conçus par les joueurs pour Therian Saga, nous savons qu’ils sont utilisés fréquemment. Nous reconnaissons aussi que ces guides peuvent parfois faire la différence auprès des joueurs quand ils ne savent plus trop comment faire pour progresser. Donc, nous voulons être certains que vous aurez tout ce dont vous avez besoin pour les créer.

Et qu’est-ce qui pourrait être mieux pour cela qu’un accès direct à la base de données?

Donc nous avons décidé d’ouvrir une partie de notre base de données aux concepteurs d’outils. Il y a beaucoup plus d’informations à cet endroit que dans le vieux fichier XML. Nous devons cependant admettre qu’extraire l’information pourrait être compliqué et nous n’avons pas beaucoup de temps pour vous aider.

Pour l’instant les quêtes, les résidents, les magasins, les butins et les hauts faits demeurent cachés. Nous ne sommes pas prêts à rendre publique cette partie. L’équipe est partagée sur ces points. Tout ce qui touche à l’artisanat, à la récolte, au domicile et à la carte est cependant présent. Vous devriez donc avoir suffisamment de matériel pour vous amuser pendant des heures à faire des outils.

J’aimerais tester l’ouverture de données avec certains concepteurs d’outils. Ceux qui sont intéressés, envoyez-moi, svp, un courriel à francois.desrosiers@virtys.com . Je vous répondrai en vous donnant les moyens de vous connecter à notre base de données. Vous aurez besoin de Visual Studio Community Edition ou de SQL Management Studio (disponibles gratuitement tous les deux chez Microsoft).

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Re: Game Guide : Opening more data to Toolmakers!

Postby iizno » Sun 18 Sep 2016, 11:04

Par curiosité, pourquoi ne pas avoir simplement proposé une api Rest ? Cela aurait simplifié incroyablement la tâche a de potentiels développeurs via un standard très répandu et ultra simple à appréhender.

En tout cas, merci pour tous ce que vous accomplissez, vous n'avez jamais penser à monter un patreon ?

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Postby Naelline » Sun 18 Sep 2016, 12:22

La boutique est un bon patreon ;)
Avec la campagne de déménagement en janvier, les emperator ont droit à des bonus personnels :D
Oui, je suis une méchante petite fille. Mais... puisque je vous le dis !
En plus, j'suis capricieuse :twisted:

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Re: Game Guide : Opening more data to Toolmakers!

Postby NightCroucher » Fri 14 Oct 2016, 06:56

With new data I've updated my map. Now it's also multilanguage.
http://map.theriansaga-wiki.ru

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Postby Gopol » Fri 14 Oct 2016, 08:05

NightCroucher wrote:With new data I've updated my map. Now it's also multilanguage.
http://map.theriansaga-wiki.ru


Thanks.

When you zoom out, the region names are in russian.
3 Icons are missing in or around the imperial island.

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Re: Game Guide : Opening more data to Toolmakers!

Postby NightCroucher » Fri 14 Oct 2016, 09:19

Gopol wrote:When you zoom out, the region names are in russian.

My mistake, I will get other picture packs as soon as possible.
Gopol wrote:3 Icons are missing in or around the imperial island.

Thanks, it seems like I need icon check function for myself )

UPD: all icons are ok. local map packs downloaded

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Re: Game Guide : Opening more data to Toolmakers!

Postby NightCroucher » Mon 24 Oct 2016, 20:06

Now I'm working on game guide improving (previous version was here: http://guide.theriansaga-wiki.ru).
I've already change data source for test version to database from xml, so more data can be added. If anyone have ideas, I will be glad to hear them.
Also I'm trying to integrate map to some pages, and made all icons in color (it's look more cool that way :) )
Some screens: http://clip2net.com/s/3DDsb0a , http://clip2net.com/s/3DDsXFf

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Postby Gopol » Mon 24 Oct 2016, 20:21

Very nice.

To further improve, I guess numbers for the outputs.

Also maybe add a few more links.

For instance, in this page
http://guide.theriansaga-wiki.ru/skill/ ... 2bcb902040

Clicking on leadership could bring you to the leadership page.

More icons could have the actual color of the item in game like alsafa leaves and the various agreements.

Translation issues :
On the page above, clicking on the companions brings you to pages in russian.
The 3 pictures at the top of every page have russian text on them


Keep up the good work :)

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Postby NightCroucher » Mon 24 Oct 2016, 20:38

http://guide.theriansaga-wiki.ru - is the old version, new version is hidden for now, I wait Falkarma's word to public it.

For now it looks mostly the same, but icons are all colorized including alsafa leaves and all others, also translation is improved.
For output's numbers i want to add new page type - 'Task' with more detail info: numbers, odds, price, cooldown, group or not flags and so on.

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Postby NightCroucher » Mon 24 Oct 2016, 22:06

http://guide.theriansaga-wiki.ru/ - link for new guide.

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Re: Game Guide : Opening more data to Toolmakers!

Postby Falkarma » Tue 25 Oct 2016, 14:36

This guide is awesome, I'd like to thank NightCrouncher for his persistance in this project, we can say that the opening of the game data was accelerated a lot by him ;-)
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Postby Neku » Tue 25 Oct 2016, 16:07

NightCroucher wrote:http://test.theriansaga-wiki.ru/ - link for new guide.


Very impressive! I love it.

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Re: Game Guide : Opening more data to Toolmakers!

Postby Sru » Tue 25 Oct 2016, 18:35

wow, prima gemacht... gibts so einen link auch für eine deutsche version ?

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Postby NightCroucher » Tue 25 Oct 2016, 21:33

Thanks )

Sru wrote:wow, prima gemacht... gibts so einen link auch für eine deutsche version ?

you can see data in german by selecting it with selector at the upper right corner. And if you want to see interface labels also in german (or any other language) you need to fill texts same way as here http://pastebin.com/tfkTT7uN and give it to me.

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Postby NightCroucher » Wed 26 Oct 2016, 18:25

UPDATE:
- on `item` page info about item used in recipes by it's type is now aviable (ex: armor craft tasks for Plates item);
- on title page skill names are now localized;
- moved test version to main domain - http://guide.theriansaga-wiki.ru

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Postby Kartrak » Fri 28 Oct 2016, 13:21

Hi all,

First off, congratulation to NightCroucher for his site. Putting something like that together is quite a challenge!

I wanted to share my site also: http://www.theriantools.com

It's been out there for a while (more than a year), but I never publicized it before (thanks to Google Analytic, I know that some of you already use it ^^). With the opening of the data, I feel that it is enough accurate to be officially announced.

This site has a generic simulator for almost all craft and a dedicated potion simulator. It is also listing a lot of information that you would find in the guide.

The site include French, English, Russian and German for Game Data (provided by Virtys), but the frame itself is in French or English.

I hope this will help some people out there.

Falk: could it be possible to create a “Fan Site” section in the “International” forum? Or should we keep posting on this post?

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Postby NightCroucher » Fri 28 Oct 2016, 19:02

I have never imagined that Theriantools is not publicized, I'm using it feels like forever :)
Huge respect for Kartrak!

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Postby Céline » Fri 28 Oct 2016, 20:04

Hello :)

It's not a "section", but we can begin with this : viewtopic.php?f=61&t=2265
If needed, we will think to create a new section.

Vous pouvez commencer par mettre vos sites / outils ici : viewtopic.php?f=61&t=2265
Si nécessaire, nous réfléchirons à ouvrir une nouvelle section


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Postby NightCroucher » Sat 29 Oct 2016, 17:24

I think Kartrak was talking about section to create separate topics for each fan site.

@Céline: silently take one step closer.

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Re: Game Guide : Opening more data to Toolmakers!

Postby Céline » Sat 29 Oct 2016, 17:42

Not sure it's necessary to create more sections :| For... 5 or 6 tools/fansites, with an update every 2or 3 months...
If the topic becomes impossible to follow because you have so much things to told every week, we shall think to create a dedicated section ;)

Unless it is because you do not tolerate the presence of others tools/fansites ? :lol:
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