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Re: Multiple accounts: It happened edition/ Multicompte: C'est arrivé

Postby kaminoki » Wed 24 May 2017, 11:34

100 taille de pierre ?
quand ta guilde a besoin de 6k bloc de marapis par exemple limite a 100 taille par semaine est pas du tout possible
pour les structures de guilde la non plus ca passe pas
on parlerat meme pas du grimalroc dont il faut 10 rocher pour esperer avoir un bloc de grimalpure (700h en moyenne )

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Re: Multiple accounts: It happened edition/ Multicompte: C'est arrivé

Postby Céline » Wed 24 May 2017, 11:59

La piste de la limitation d'action n'est pas du tout envisagée ;)
Entre le gameplay qui serait totalement modifié et le travail technique que cela demanderait... on discute bien d'une limitation de comptes/personnages premium/gratuit etc
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Re: Multiple accounts: It happened edition/ Multicompte: C'est arrivé

Postby franckb17 » Wed 24 May 2017, 13:19

Mon idée, c’est de trouver un moyen d’éliminer « naturellement » les perso qui sont créé uniquement dans le but de faire un seul craft en masse. Et dont il suffit de passer 1 minute par jour pour relancer l’activité.

Après, avoir de la disponibilité pour jouer réellement avec 1, 2 ,5, 10 ou 50 perso, c’est suivant le temps que chacun et chacune peux accorder au jeu.

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Re: Multiple accounts: It happened edition/ Multicompte: C'est arrivé

Postby postman » Wed 24 May 2017, 13:43

je pense que limiter à 10 comptes est largement suffisant, ca permet déjà d'avoir 50 alts, c'est quand même déjà plus que raisonnable.
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Re: Multiple accounts: It happened edition/ Multicompte: C'est arrivé

Postby Procne » Wed 24 May 2017, 15:29

It's not possible to effectively limit the number of accounts with 1 character. IP, user-agent and whatever other checks you can think of can easily be circumvented. Even if you hire additional people to do the multi-account hunting, like in Travian. Sure, you can make it harder to use multiple accounts like this, but the only difference will be that only people who have some knowledge about stuff like this will still be able to continue doing it, while others not. And since they are doing it to gain an edge over others you would only be making them a favor by trimming some of the competition.

On the other hand - if someone took the time and effort to raise a char shouldn't he be entitled to the fruits of this labor? The problem lies in the fact that all this produce is funneled to boost one, or a few, "main" character, making it stronger than other players' characters', right? That's why combining MMO with competing leads to "that's why we can't have nice things". But as far as I know this game is not about competition and there is no endgame race.

Or is the problem centered around all those chars circumventing "cooldowns" on repeatable tasks generating a lot of cash and injecting it into game's economy, while not consuming any materials on their own? If so, then I think those tasks should be removed or have some cost in materials.

Well, I think the discussion should start from specifying what EXACTLY is the problem. "He has more monies than me because he has multiple accounts, therefore he should be banned" is not a valid argument IMO.

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Re: Multiple accounts: It happened edition/ Multicompte: C'est arrivé

Postby Cloudigger » Wed 24 May 2017, 15:57

J'ai fait une mise à jour dans mon message original.

I've updated my original post.

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Re: Multiple accounts: It happened edition/ Multicompte: C'est arrivé

Postby Cloudigger » Wed 24 May 2017, 19:18

Just to let you know, we only found about a dozen of user on our servers that had more than 15 non premium accounts.

Pour info, nous n'avons trouvé qu'une douzaine d'utilisateurs ayant plus de 15 comptes non premium.

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Postby Céline » Wed 24 May 2017, 20:02

Cloudigger wrote:Pour info, nous n'avons trouvé qu'une douzaine d'utilisateurs ayant plus de 15 comptes non premium.


Et là tout à coup le vent de panique tombe (et se fait pas trop mal j'espère) :lol:
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Re: Multiple accounts: It happened edition/ Multicompte: C'est arrivé

Postby Yushi » Wed 24 May 2017, 21:20

If I understood correctly. The limit is 15 non-premium accounts. That's a very lenient cap.

Is there, or will there ever be, a cap on premium accounts? If some dude wants 40 accounts with max upgrades, he can do it, or no?
I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.



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Re: Multiple accounts: It happened edition/ Multicompte: C'est arrivé

Postby Laerities/Volund » Thu 25 May 2017, 12:36

I could see 15 being enough for anyone, I have like 13 characters and roughly 8 accounts. Although I've added hunters accounts into the number since thats whats being looked at. For those worried pretty sure this applies to the same old people who create accounts to abuse materials and gold into the game. I was not even a tad bit worried when I see it, all my accounts are partially upgraded.

But ya this post is pretty much a hard cap on spamming the game because if its really a completely free account then I don't have any, and if its a no upgrades account I have 1... LOL
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Re: Multiple accounts: It happened edition/ Multicompte: C'est arrivé

Postby Cloudigger » Thu 25 May 2017, 15:30

Yushi wrote:If I understood correctly. The limit is 15 non-premium accounts. That's a very lenient cap.

Is there, or will there ever be, a cap on premium accounts? If some dude wants 40 accounts with max upgrades, he can do it, or no?


Well.. we did not think we will had to put an hard cap on the number of non premium accounts... so ... I cannot say never.

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Re: Multiple accounts: It happened edition/ Multicompte: C'est arrivé

Postby Arakismo » Thu 25 May 2017, 20:37

Ce serait bien de faire un post officiel sur Steam, histoire que ceux ne venant pas sur les forums officiels soit au courant aussi (idée suggéré par des joueurs de Loucantar).

Personnellement je trouve que c'est déjà bien 15 compte max, au moins ça impose une limite claire ^^
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Re: Multiple accounts: It happened edition/ Multicompte: C'est arrivé

Postby Ambrielle » Thu 25 May 2017, 21:08

Thank you for the update Cloudigger, I'm glad I don't have to worry about my accounts :mrgreen:

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Re: Multiple accounts: It happened edition/ Multicompte: C'est arrivé

Postby Cloudigger » Thu 25 May 2017, 22:22

Arakismo wrote:Ce serait bien de faire un post officiel sur Steam, histoire que ceux ne venant pas sur les forums officiels soit au courant aussi (idée suggéré par des joueurs de Loucantar).

Personnellement je trouve que c'est déjà bien 15 compte max, au moins ça impose une limite claire ^^



Merci de la suggestion. J'écrirai quelque chose demain ou ce weekend.


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